q8fn 75 inch lcd panel price
First of all it took over 2 weeks to get the TV (Samsung Q8, Flat, 75 inch) due to Amazon logistics and scheduling errors. Once i got it, i figured out that it does not support one connect box for this class of TV (surprising) and hence it is very thick. It makes no sense to me why they would make it so thick to accommodate back panel connectors (hdmi, usb, RF). Either way, once you put it on the wall, whether is 1" thick of 2" thick, you cant access the back anyway. Then i went thru minimal documentation which does state that the TV does not support one connect box.
The thickness of this TV is lot more than Q7, 75 inch but when you hang it on the wall, it looks really good. I would prefer this thickness vs. Q7 or Q9 because of the way it sticks out. So, i am very happy with the end result.
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The back of the Q8FN is nearly identical to the NU8000. It has the same cable management system which works exceptionally well for guiding all of the cables either through the legs or through the bottom of the TV when wall-mounted.
Excellent build quality. There are no gaps in the construction. It is mostly plastic but there are some metal parts. It feels well built and solid. The back panel has a lot of flex in the middle where the VESA mounts are located, and the corners of the bezel are slightly cracked but this should not cause any issues.
Decent local dimming on the Q8FN, very similar to the Sony X900F. The Q8FN does not completely turn off zones that were far away from our test dot. The Q8FN has less visible blooming than the X900F, but the black levels are not as deep.
Update 01/08/2019: The Q8FN in Europe does not have a full array local dimming feature, but is instead edge-lit. Samsung has instead released the Q8DN, which has the same full array local dimming feature as the one we have tested.
Excellent peak brightness with SDR content. Highlights are very bright and stand out. The 2018 Q8FN is much brighter than last year"s Q8C. Real scenes are not as bright as our test windows, but still bright enough for most rooms.
Decent gray uniformity, but worse than last year"s Q8. The sides of the Q8FN are darker than the rest of the screen, but this isn"t as noticeable as when it is in the center. The center of the screen is not uniform, this will be noticeable when watching sports like hockey or football with large areas of uniform color in the center of the screen.
The Samsung Q8 has a poor viewing angle, the picture quality degrades when viewed off angle. Blacks turn gray and colors shift even with a small angle. This TV is not a good choice for a room with side seating or even with a large couch. These results are typical of VA-type panels. OLED panels like the LG C7 have much better viewing angles.
The 2018 Q8FN has excellent reflection handling. Reflections are well defined but at a much lower intensity, as such there is much less glare. The anti-reflection coating gives reflections a slight purple tint, but this isn"t really noticeable. This TV is excellent even for a very bright room.
Excellent wide color gamut. The Q8FN can display nearly 100% of the P3 color space, and has the highest Rec.2020 coverage we have ever seen, although it is very close to the 2017 Q9F.
The Q8FN has an excellent response time with very little overshoot. The left and right sides of the chart do not line up due to the local dimming feature.
The Q8FN uses PWM to dim the backlight, and it flickers regardless of backlight setting, even at 100%. The flicker changes considerably depending on settings. Normally, it flickers at 480 Hz, which shouldn"t be noticeable and creates little motion duplication. This is much better than last year"s Q8C, and almost as good as Sony"s X900F.
The Samsung Q8FN has an optional BFI mode called "LED Clear Motion" that adjusts the flicker depending on the content to help motion appear more clear.
BFI on the Q8FN is able to flicker at a variety of frequencies, as low as 60Hz to help fluidity of motion with 60 fps content. Similarly to the NU8000, it is also available in "Game Mode".
The Samsung 2018 Q8FN has a 120Hz panel, and can interpolate lower frame rate content up to 120 Hz. This helps motion appear much smoother, but it can sometimes get it wrong and cause motion artifacts. In scenes with lots of motion the TV stops interpolating, preferring to maintain quality similar to the LG C8. This effect can look strange to many people and is also known as the "Soap Opera Effect".
The Q8FN is almost always judder-free, but when playing 24p content through a streaming device at 60i, it was inconsistent. This result is unexpected, although we have similar results with other Samsungs we have tested. We will retest this with each firmware update. This will not be an issue for most people.
The Samsung Q8FN does not support FreeSync from our Radeon RX 580 GPU. We tried multiple combinations of "Game Mode", "PC Mode" and different refresh rates but FreeSync was never detected as supported.
Most common resolutions and refresh rates are supported without issue. Like the NU8000, the Q8FN does not support 1440p@60Hz, and in PC mode with a 1440p@120Hz signal the TV does not display chroma 4:4:4 properly, as colors appear washed out.
The Q8FN does not support DTS passthrough like the NU8000. This should not be an issue since most media provides both DTS and Dolby Digital sound streams.
The frequency response of of the Q8FN is below-average. Low-frequency extension (LFE) is at 76Hz, which is quite decent for a TV. This means that this TV will be able to produce some punch and kick, but no thump or rumble in the bass range. The response above the TV"s LFE is decently flat and well-balanced, but because this TV doesn"t have a room correction system, it wasn"t able to remove the modes of our test room around 200Hz. The Max SPL of 85.5dB is above-average, but may not be enough for loud environments.
The interface of the Q8FN is well organized and intuitive. The interface is inconsistent, occasionally dropping frames on animations. The 2018 Q8FN and NU8000 are worse than last year"s models.
Like all Samsung TVs, the Q8FN has ads throughout the home menu, as well as suggested content within the app store. They are not always there, and there is no option to disable them.
The Q8 series is available in three sizes, and starts around $2,000 for the 55-inch. That"s similar pricing to LG"s 55-inch C8 OLED, and it"s clear that Samsung hopes for its QLED line to exist in a similarly premium sphere as LG"s 2018 OLED TVs.
I watched content on Netflix and YouTube, as well as 4K/HDR Blu-rays, and (in Movie mode) never noticed any overt issues in terms of motion performance. The TV"s 120 Hz panel and adjustable de-blue/de-judder ensure smooth playback in most circumstances.
It isn"t horrible, but picky viewers may take some issue. I suspect this issue is similar on the 65-inch Q8, which prospective wall-mounters should definitely keep in mind.
Both the 55- and 65-inch Q8 TVs have full-array local dimming, which is why they look so good (and are a bit pricy). While this is a boon to content 90% of the time, sometimes it acts strangely.
At $2,000, the 55-inch Q8 is a bit expensive, but ultimately it"s priced more fairly than not. The design, features, and picture quality are all top-notch, and only extremely picky viewers will take any issue here.
What you"re paying for here is the Q8"s sheer brightness and color volume, alongside the minimalist aesthetic. The 55-inch Q8 is over $1,000 more expensive than the 55-inch TCL 6 Series right now, but it"s also over twice as bright and more colorful. The two aren"t really in the same class at all where HDR is concerned.
If this is your price range, you could also check out the LG"s 55-inch C8 OLED ($2,500), which we expect to perform as well as the 2017 C7 model, our top-rated TV from last year. However, if your TV room has lots of windows or lights, I still recommend the Q8 over an OLED.
If you want superb TV quality without the added expense of a new OLED TV, look no further than the Samsung 65-inch Q8FN QLED TV, which manages to be one of the best TVs available, even without being Samsung"s top-of-the-line model. The Samsung Q8FN ($2,499) is part of Samsung"s premium QLED lineup, and benefits from Samsung"s Quantum-dot LCD enhancement, a full roster of features and capabilities, and a design that looks better than most any TV on the market. It"s a big step up from the more affordable $1,699 Samsung 65Q6FN QLED TV, and a great alternative to more expensive OLED sets, and that"s enough for us to recommend it strongly.
The Samsung Q8F has the same premium stylings as the rest of its QLED line, like the Samsung 65-inch Q6F QLED TV we reviewed earlier this year. That design aesthetic means that you can expect the Q8F to have several touches unique to Samsung"s TVs, which Samsung calls "Q Style."
This includes a 360-degree design that pays almost as much attention to the backside of the TV as it does the display panel in front. The back panel is covered in a striped textured finish, with a dark gray color that"s a bit more attractive than the basic black seen on most TV chassis.
Measuring 57.1 x 32.6 x 2.3 inches, the Q8F"s 58.4-pound cabinet is thicker than some premium TVs, most notably LG"s ultra-slim OLED panels, but thanks to the full-array backlighting panel inside, it"s also a fraction of an inch thicker than the Samsung Q6F (2.2 inches). Despite the slightly thicker design of the Q8F, there"s nothing chunky about it, and noting the thickness is hardly a knock on the design.
The inset connector panel is one of the few elements that separates the Q8F from Samsung"s top-tier Q9F models (which we have seen, but not yet reviewed). Whereas those models have a separate connector box for all video and audio connections, and use a slim, nearly invisible cable to connect it to the TV, the Q8F uses standard built-in ports and a traditional cable management.
Perhaps the most impressive aspect of the enhanced panel are the black levels. Most LCD displays suffer from an effect called elevated blacks, a byproduct of the backlight that shines through the LCD panel even when displaying black. Even high-quality LCD sets like the LG 65SK9500 and the Sony Bravia X900F have some trouble with these glowing grays where black should be.
Backlight consistency is also top-notch. Unlike most LCD displays, Samsung"s QLED panel has no discernable shadowing in the corners. The set also has full-array backlight with local dimming, and those dimming zones do a great deal to reduce unwanted halos and light blooms. While some minor blooming can be seen around smaller bright spots when contrasted against dark backgrounds, it"s a step up from what we saw on the Samsung 65Q6FN QLED TV. It"s similar in setup to the Sony Bravia X900F, but with better overall lighting control; it"s one of the best options seen this side of an OLED display"s per-pixel illumination.
Viewing angles are also among the best, with little to no color shifting when viewing the 65-inch panel at either horizontal or vertical angles. When viewing single-color screens, we saw minimal color shifting. When viewing a solid pink screen, we saw only the faintest purple tinges at the edge of the display when viewed from 60 degrees off-center. This is a TV that can be enjoyed from most any angle, by several people.
The Samsung 65-inch Q8FN QLED TV manages to stand out among this year"s excellent TVs with a premium design, rich feature set and performance that"s on a par with the best premium TVs on the market. It offers great color, excellent HDR performance and it"s the best option available for buyers shying away from higher-priced OLEDs.
Size class of the display as declared by the manufacturer. Often this is the rounded value of the actual size of the diagonal in inches.74.5 in (inches)
There are various panel technologies. Each has its own specific features - viewing angles, color reproduction, response time, brightness/contrast, production cost, etc. The image quality depends directly on the type of the display panel used.VA
The most widely used panels are those with 6, 8, and 10 bits for each of the RGB components of the pixel. They provide 18-, 24-, and 30-bit color, respectively.10 bits
Frame Rate Control (FRC) is a method, which allows the pixels to show more color tones. With quick cyclic switching between different color tones, an illusion for a new intermediate color tone is created. For example, by using FRC, a 6-bit display panel is able to show 16.7 millioin colors, which are typical for 8-bit display panels, and not the standard 262200 colors, instead. There are different FRC algorithms.No
The maximum number of colors, which the display is able to reproduce, depends on the type of the panel in use and color enhancing technologies like FRC.1073741824 colors
Information of the number of pixels in a unit of length. With the decrease of the display size and the increase of its resolution, the pixel density increases.59 ppi (pixels per inch)
The backlight is the source of light of the LCD display panels. The type of backlight determines the image quality and the color space of the display. There are various backlights such as CCFL, LED, WLED, RGB-LED, and etc.Direct LED (Full-Array Local Dimming)
While the media has spent the last few years gushing over OLED TV tech, Samsung has steadfastly pushed the advancement of conventional LED/LCD TVs through its own take on the format, QLED. By using quantum dot technology to wring performance out of LCD panels that rivals OLED, Samsung has managed to create a highly competitive line of TVs, distinguishing itself from its competitors.
Notably, Samsung’s 2017 flagship TV, the Q9F, was the best LCD TV we had seen. Until now. At a global launch event in New York, Samsung unveiled its full line of 2018 QLED TVs, and, once again, we find ourselves extremely impressed. In fact, we think Samsung’s 2018 Q9F has what it takes to bethe best TV of the year.
The 2018 QLED TVs exhibit off-angle performance and black level performance which come dangerously close to OLED, while maintaining distinct advantages in the areas of luminance and color brightness. In short, they are the most impressive LED/LCD TVs we’ve ever seen, and while we do our best to show them off in our video above, you’ll need to see the 2018 QLED line in person to believe it yourself.
The Q9F flagship is available in 75- and 65-inch screen sizes, while the Q8F will come in 55-, 65-, and 75-inch screen sizes. The Q7C will include 55-, and 65-inch offerings, while the Q7F will come in 55-, 65-, and 75-inch variants. The Q6 will start at 49-inches and ramp all the way up to a monstrous 82-inch model.
Pricing for the full range of Samsung’s 2018 QLED lineup, aside from one model, is listed on the company’s website. The most expensive model is the Q9F at $20,000, which is pricier than LG’s W8 OLED, but also larger, at 88 inches compared to the W8’s 77. The one most buyers will be more interested in is likely the 65-inch Samsung Q9FN, at $3,800, which is more affordable and still offers great picture and a packed feature set; in our review, we called it “the best TV Samsung has ever made.” Pricing for the entire 2018 lineup is below.
4K Resolution with direct LED lighting and local dimming (hundreds of zones - likely 450-500). Brightness is claimed to reach 2000 nit peaks on this flagship model - and it’s nice to find a 55-inch model included in the flagship range this year, even if this 55-inch model is not currently scheduled to launch in the US.
All of the NU series of TVs for 2018 use ‘standard’ LED technologies rather than the Samsung’s metal-clad Quantum Dots found in the QLED models. This means they can’t deliver such extreme levels of brightness and color. It’s worth noting, too, that unlike the Q9FN and (US) Q8FN models, none of the NU models use contrast-friendly direct LED lighting, where the LEDs sit behind the screen. They’re all edge-lit. The pay-off with the NU models, of course, is that they’re significantly cheaper than Samsung’s QLED models.
The NU8500 series uses Samsung’s (pre-QLED) Dynamic Crystal color technology to deliver a wider color gamut than you get from typical LCD TVs. Its edge LED system features local dimming, where separate segments of the lights can output different amounts of brightness to suit the picture. Though it won’t do this with as much precision as a TV with direct LED lighting and local dimming.
From straight on it"s typically minimalist and modern, with a thin strip of black along the picture framed by a lighter edge of gray. The edge-to-picture distance on the top, sides and bottom is just as narrow as any other TV at about a half-inch, but while competitors have wider bottoms, the Samsung"s frame maintains the same distance on all four sides. And the logo is tiny -- smaller than the "Samsung" on the back of my phone.
From off-angle the Q8 lost black level and color fidelity about as quickly as the Sony and the Q7. The TCL maintained black levels better but color shift was worse, while the OLED, as expected, trounced the LCDs from off angle.
As I mentioned in previous reviews, among the non-OLED TVs in my lineup the Q8 was my favorite with HDR by a hair, thanks to superior contrast: black levels that matched the TCL in most scenes (and beat the Sony and the Vizio) combined with the brightest highlights. Its advantage with HDR punch wasn"t extreme, however; each LCD has its strengths, and none could come close to matching the LG OLED.
View content at four times the resolution of 1080p with the Samsung Q8FN 75" Class HDR UHD Smart QLED TV. This TV has a 74.5" LED-backlit LCD display, and incorporates Motion Rate 240 technology to digitally enhance fast-moving images to reduce blur. It is compatible with the HDR10, HDR10+, and HLG HDR formats to provide a wider color gamut with compatible content and other equipment for more vivid images.
The Q8FN has built-in Wi-Fi connectivity to allow access to your favorite apps and Internet-based content, plus content sharing and screen mirroring with your other smart devices such as your smartphone or tablet. With four HDMI inputs, there are multiple options for connecting high-definition video sources. Two USB ports are also onboard for connecting multimedia peripherals like flash drives.
Courtesy of the Quantum Dots, the Q8FN series TV can produce up to a billion shades of color. Meeting 100% of the DCI-P3 color space helps keep color from fading in bright scenes.
Quantum-dot technology is hard to beat when it comes to vibrant and accurate color. Even when it’s in a less-expensive QLED, such as the 65-inch-class Samsung Q8FN reviewed here. By cheaper, I mean a street price of $2,300 as opposed to the $3,000 that the Q9FN will set you back. That’s still a pretty heft sum, but it’s only $300 more than the Q7FN—and it’s $100 less than the Q7FN was just a couple of months ago. Yup, it’s getting to be that time of year again.
Let’s examine the major differences between the three: The least-expensive model—the Q7FN—uses edge backlighting, while the Q8FN has full array direct backlighting (so it delivers better blacks than the Q7FN). The top-of-the-line Q9FN, meanwhile, nets you full array direct backlighting, Samsung’s nifty One Connect box (which will save you some cable wrangling), and 25-percent higher dynamic range than the Q8FN).
Considering the Q8FN’s narrower dynamic range is far wider than what you’ll encounter in most other TVs on the market—apart from the Q9FN, of course—and cables aren’t all that hard to wrangle, I consider the compromise pretty easy to live with given the Q8FN’s lower price tag.
The Q8FN I tested is of the 65-inch class (55-, 75-, and 82-inch models are also available), with a 64.5-inch panel running at 120Hz. Resolution is 3840×2160, aka, 4K UHD or 2160p. The TV is a thin-bezel design that weighs in at right around 60 pounds and is VESA wall-mountable. Samsung won’t say how many lights or zones there are in the backlighting. Why the reticence, I can’t say, but there are a lot.
I was surprised to discover that the Q8FN’s ports are on the TV, as opposed to the aforementioned One Connect box, since Samsung bundles that with both the less-expensive Q7FN and the top-of-the-line Q9FN. Plugging all the required cables into the TV itself is slightly more awkward, but you easily save enough money to come up with another hidden solution, such as a cable raceway painted to match the wall. And if you’re not wall-mounting, the absence of the One Connect box is a moot point anyway.
The Q8FN doesn’t have the One Connect breakout box featured by the Q7FN and Q9FN, instead opting for onboard ports. Considering you get much the same picture as the Q9FN for a lot less—we can live with that.
The Q8FN does support Samsung’s ambient mode, where you use the Samsung app to take a picture of the TV’s surroundings, then create an on-display wallpaper with it so that the display “disappears” into its background. It’s a neat party trick, but it’s not as valuable as supporting Dolby Vision.
Before I nitpick, the Q8FN’s picture easily makes the 95th percentile. After living with other brands for most of the last two months, viewing it reminded me just how good the QLEDs are. Great black (for an LED-backlit LCD) along with great peak brightness, and the best color in the business. Since I no longer have the Q9FN to make a side-by-side comparison, take this with a grain of salt, but I was actually happier with the Q8FN’s image that I remember being with the Q9FN’s.
It might have something to do with the array backlighting, which supposedly isn’t quite as granular and produces 25-percent less peak brightness. I still measured 1600 nits at one point, and the blacks were largely spot on. Perhaps there’s a sweet spot the Q8FN hits that the Q9FN doesn’t.
The Q8FN’s color is every bit as accurate as the Q9FN’s thanks to a layer of quantum dots. Straight LED/filter technologies are getting closer to true reds and greens, but QLEDs are already there. Indeed, you must retreat to the old CLF-backlight days to find color that’s a vibrant and true.
I do have two minor complaints. The first is that the backlight and other optimizations aren’t always instantaneous. In other words, you’ll see some slight blooming or judder for an instant before the Q8FN figures out what’s going on in the video and compensates.
The other nitpick has to do with the panning of highly detailed patterns, which is a complaint I have with nearly all LED-backlit LCD TVs. There’s often a slight shimmer or indistinct moiré. You can dial this out of most material, but not without loss of sharpness and detail. The only TVs I’ve seen that handle this particular type of artifact well are from Sony, which are otherwise, not quite in QLED’s class.
Stated maximum power draw of the Q8FN is around 280 watts, though I never saw more than around 200 with HDR (High Dynamic Range) material. With standard dynamic range, power consumption was about half that.
The sound from the Q8FN isn’t bad at all, and you could probably live with it if you’re not too picky about such things. I mentioned 4.1-channel audio, but that’s simply the onboard speaker count. Via HDMI or other outputs, the Q8FN will drive larger setups.
Of all the 65-inch TVs I’ve tested in the $2,000 to $2,500 price range, the Q8FN is easily the best. Actually, it can hold its own with the finest TVs at any price point. The HDR is vibrant, the colors true, and the blacks very dark. The only caveat is the lack of support for Dolby Vision.
The Hisense U8H matches the excellent brightness and color performance of much pricier LCD TVs, and its Google TV smart platform is a welcome addition. But it’s available in only three screen sizes.
The Hisense U8H is the best LCD/LED TV for most people because it delivers the performance of a much pricier TV yet starts at under $1,000, for the smallest (55-inch) screen size. This TV utilizes quantum dots, a full-array backlight with mini-LEDs, and a 120 Hz refresh rate to deliver a great-looking 4K HDR image. It’s compatible with every major HDR format. And it’s equipped with two full-bandwidth HDMI 2.1 inputs to support 4K 120 Hz gaming from the newest Xbox and PlayStation consoles. Add in the intuitive, fully featured Google TV smart-TV platform, and the U8H’s price-to-performance ratio is of inarguable value.
Chief among the U8H’s many strengths is its impressive peak brightness. When sending it HDR test patterns, I measured an average brightness of 1,500 nits, with peaks just north of 1,800 nits (a measurement of luminance; see TV features, defined for more info). To put that into perspective, consider that the 65-inch version of our budget 4K TV pick (the TCL 5-Series) typically costs around half as much as the 65-inch U8H but achieves only around 30% to 40% of its brightness. On the other side of the coin, the 65-inch version of our upgrade pick (the Samsung QN90B) costs almost twice as much as the 65-inch U8H, but it achieves only nominally higher brightness. Adequate light output creates convincing highlights and image contrast and (when necessary) combats ambient light from lamps or windows. It is a necessity for any TV worth buying—especially if you hope to watch HDR movies or play HDR games—and the U8H simply outpaces most TVs in its price range (and some in the next price bracket up, too).
In terms of design, the Hisense U8H is not as svelte as our upgrade pick, but it’s plenty sturdy and doesn’t look or feel cheap. Two narrow, metal feet jut out from beneath the panel and steadily hold the TV. They can be attached in two separate spots, either closer in toward the middle of the panel or out toward the edges, to account for different-size TV stands. The feet are also equipped with cable organization clasps—a nice touch for keeping your TV stand free of cable clutter. Though the TV is primarily plastic, its bezels are lined with metal strips, providing a bit more durability in the long run. I moved it around my home, and it was no worse for wear, but we’ll know more after doing some long-term testing.
The Hisense U8H has some difficulties with banding, or areas of uneven gradation, where transitions that should appear smooth instead look like “bands” of color (sometimes also called posterization). Like many current 4K HDR TVs, the U8H uses an 8-bit panel rather than a 10-bit panel, which affects the color decoding and color presentation process. This is usually relevant only with HDR video and games. When playing games on the PlayStation 5 and Xbox Series X, I saw a few instances where the content wasn’t rendered correctly and displayed ugly splotches of color on the screen. However, this almost always occurred during static screens (such as a pause menu or loading screen); I rarely spotted it during actual gameplay. Hisense has stated that it would address the problem in a future firmware update, but at the time of writing it was still present. This is a flaw that may give dedicated gamers pause, but we don’t consider it to be a dealbreaker for most people.
Finally, like most TVs that use vertical alignment (VA) LCD panels, the U8H has a limited horizontal viewing angle, which may be a bit annoying if you’re hoping to entertain a large crowd. Our upgrade pick uses a special wide-angle technology to address this.