amiga lcd monitors made in china
I think using vintage CRTs for our Amigas is great since it brings that original experience back in all it"s beam-scanning glory. Personally I can"t do this due to various reasons.
Originally I had 5 Amigas and 3 monitors. I was in the coin-op business and so had access to original video game monitors. When I needed a monitor I"d just connect R/G/B/sync/GND to a 23 pin vid connector and off I went. Inline 5 pole 3 position switch and flipped between the various computers as needed. Oh.. I"m sidetracking.. sry.
I know that the Amiga"s native display isn"t all that great on modern monitors, but for the time being, I"d like to at least be work with them as I gradually get them back on line.
Maybe I"m overthinking it, but I"m not sure how to get from Amiga"s native Khz freq. to the digital HDMI/DVI/digital port world. One of my machines(A3000) is RTG capable (Thanks Picasso!) but, to be honest I"d fall out of my chair if that machine started and ran after 20 years...
If you"re in NTSC-land, I recommend the Viewsonic VX2276-SMHD. This is a 22" LCD that can handle 15KHz. The 24" and 27" variants probably will also. I bought 3 of these for my ReAmiga 1200"s to utilize the VGA ports. A DB23 to VGA converter would probably work fine for the 500.
"This is the nicest LCD I have ever seen on Amiga. Just use a RGB to VGA adapter and it works VERY well. Highly Recommended. Added by R-C-MAN. (specs)
"Tested via SCART with A1200 revision 2B at 320x200, 320 x 256, 320x512, 640x200, 640x256, 640x512, 1280x256, 1280x512. First time I switched it on it had persistent flicker, 2nd time, 3rd time fine. Picture quality is ok (LG M2232 MUCH better for comparison - but the auto aspect ratio button on the remote does default the Amiga screen to 4:3 and centred. Pixel refresh rate appears higher than M2232D so interlace modes are terrible (they"re ok on M2232D)). Important thing, it seems to work. Will test on Atari ST via RF later
Amiga PAL/NTSC works (Low and high are usable, super high works, but texts are not readable). Uncorrectable aspect ratio. Interlaced flickers. Faint vertical banding. "Perfect" settings: H. Position 51 - V. Position 38 - Pixel clock 94 - Phase 7. Model 9H.L3RLN.IBE September 2010 (specs)
Has speakers, connect using jack. Model ID: GW2480-B, Type: GW2480E, Rev.: 10-130-BL, P/N: 9H.LHELB.CBE, Tested on Amiga, All video modes working including ECS and AGA modes. Laced also works with classic Laced flickering. If certain video mode is applied then aspect ratio correction is not possible, but "it is so beautiful, that it even isn"t needed" (as in a shrapness manner) when happens so. Monitor correctly reports input resolution. Certain video modes allows for aspect ratio correction (720x480@60 is correctable).
Has speakers, connect using jack. Model ID: GW2480-B, Type: GW2480E, Rev.: 10-130-BL, P/N: 9H.LHELB.CBE, Tested on Amiga, All video modes working including ECS and AGA modes. Laced also works with classic Laced flickering. If certain video mode is applied then aspect ratio correction is not possible, but "it is so beautiful, that it even isn"t needed" (as in a shrapness manner) when happens so. Monitor correctly reports input resolution. Certain video modes allows for aspect ratio correction (720x480@60 is correctable).
(Supports picture-in-picture). PD: Jul-02-2019 I purchased a model made in April 2005 but it will not work with PAL Amiga 1200 with RGB > VGA cable. JesperG: 06/6-2021, I found one from February 2005, it deos not work with native Amiga systems.
15 KHz works in both NTSC and PAL with a plain VGA cable. All modes worked perfectly on A500 rev 5 board with ECS Chipset. Auto resized when changing from Pal-NTSC and games displayed properly and full screen in 4:3 with no clipping. Has several internal settings, but other than changing my color, brightness and contrast preference, I used it straight out of the box. Someone changed my review and entered severely WRONG info. You need to NOTE the date, revision and year for USING monitors posted here that DO WORK. Model number used is P2214hb Rev A06 December 2015., NOT 2016, NOT 2014, NOT 2214, NOT rev b, etc..
(specs) confirmed working 29/06/18 with RGB-to-VGA adapter from Amigakit. Recommended settings to remove vertical banding (menu, display settings) - H position 20, Pixel Clock 90, Phase 30 (A500) or 60 (A1200). May depend on individual Amiga.
HiRes/LowRes PAL works with pixel and phase adjustments, I ended up with Pixel Clock 94, Phase 74, but it might depend on your hardware, Tested with a buffered RGB->VGA adapter on Amiga. It can also run DblPAL but you need to tweak the TotClk value on the Amiga and Pixel/Phase on the monitor if you want it perfect, you might also need to run borderblank for it to sync. Seems to display NTSC modes too however this wasn"t tested much.
U214MB (PAL, China, October 2012) tested Nov 2022 with Amiga 3000 (flicker fixer disabled) with a plain VGA cable. 15 kHz works in PAL (NTSC shows out of range; this may be the other way around in the US). It supports PAL, DBLPAL and MULTISCAN modes, with and without interlacing, but it does not deinterlace and the flicker from that is obnoxious. The menu allows switching of aspect ratio between 16:10, 4:3 and 5:4, with black bars on the sides but no stretching as a result. Display adjustments are retained when switching between distinct modes (e.g. PAL and DBLPAL).
Tested U213HMt manufactured May 2014 in China. This monitor needs a flicker-fixer to work, but with the flicker-fixer on the Amiga 3000 enabled the experience is okay and somewhat similar to the U2412M (menu"s, etc). The U2412M is a more appropriate choice though, and mine does not need a flicker fixer.
Monitor supports standard Amiga 15kHz PAL/NTSC modes and 30/31kHz modes. Interlaced modes display OK, but with flicker. No support for 20-28kHz video modes.
Works with an Amiga 600 SCART RGB at all PAL resolutions. Some flicker in interlaced modes when Intuition is drawing the screen, but no noticable flicker at 640x256p or 1200x256p. Needs to be manually put in 4:3 aspect on first use. (Service Manual), (Operation & User’s Manual)
* Not according to specification - but it does. Tested with Amiga 1200 1D4 at 320x200, 640x200, 640x256, 640x512, 1280x256, 1280x512, via composite and RGB Scart. Works really well with RGB SCART. Also works with PlayStation 2 via SCART in SDTV mode. Also works on Atari 520STFM connected by modulator RF cable in low and medium res. When i switch the SCART connected Amiga off, TV automatically returns to the Atari screen. Bonus.
* Not sure about specification, situation maybe similar as in case of M2232D-PZ. It works perfectly though via RGB<>SCART cable with such Amigas: A500 R6, A600 1.5&2.0, A1200 1D3, 1D4, 2B, CD32 Rev4, A4000D and A4000T
This one can even handle interlaced modes of Amiga 500, 1200 and not properly on Falcon 030. Has vertical stripes with many games (depending on their precise vertical refresh rate, like 49,8Hz or 49,9Hz), which can be compensated by using the "automatic" setting in a game that actually works fine without stripes (i.e. Xenon II). There is an optional stereo soundbar with 3.5 inch connector available for this monitor, which can be attached to the bottom of the monitor. PAL Hi-Res does NOT work right! The image is vertically stretched about twice the display"s height! The monitor and soundbar was available in white and blgack/silver color. The "p" stands for PVA. (another test) (specs)
Aspect ratio has to be set manually and is kept across all screen modes and inputs. Picture is very nice, though. Interlace flicker is much less uncomfortable than on other LCD screens. Perhaps the only 4K display with VGA port and 15kHz capability!
Although this is a TV it has a VGA input. I have tested it using a PAL Amiga 500 using an AmigaKit VGA adapter. All games run full screen so are a bit stretched.
Some users report success. One user with a PAL Amiga 500 reports an NTSC 510N manufactured March 2015 in Malaysia won"t sync at 15kHz using an unbuffered adapter. (specs)
Many of you were bored by those annoying vertical lines that arise with the use of LED matrix (example Benq BL702A). This LCD monitor is one of the few monitors that allows you to almost completely obviate these "vertical bars" by adjusting the various parameters of meù such as the "pixel clock".
But not all LCD monitors / TVs (compatible with 15KHz) have this feature, so the result is images with these annoying vertical stripes which are really bad.
This is fully buffered for Commodore-Amiga 500, 500+, 600, 1200 or "big box" Amiga systems (also for A4000, just ask me in order to cut little bit the cover shell)
*SVGA monitor must be able to sync the Amiga"s 15Khz signal (most CRT monitors have no problem doing this). Some LCD monitors such as DELL U2410 or BENQ BL702A sync down and support 15Khz- check your monitor specifications for more information.
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I would expect that a signal which is intended for use with the kind of decoding circuitry found in a television set would include these extra pulses, though many computers and video game systems omit them. A signal which is intended to directly drive a horizontal-sync trigger circuit, however, should omit them. Some monitors might attempt to respond to the double-speed pulses by scanning twice as fast, even if this would cause damaging levels of stress on their components, or would cause them to needlessly adjust their deflection currents to double the rate at which the beam moves (without such adjustment, doubling the scan rate would squish the image by 50%). If the sets start increasing the deflection current when the rate doubles, and then start dropping it when the rate goes back to normal, the time required for the current to stabilize at a level appropriate to the normal scan rate might exceed the vertical blanking interval, causing tearing.
So, since I did order an ST2VGA adapter from Centuriontech some time ago just as a backup way to connect this to something (and thank God I did!) I figured I would test some monitors I have around the house. The adapter has a switch to go from "low" or "high". Low being the low and medium color resolutions and high being the high res monochrome.
CRTs can be abundant if you have good places in your local community to look, but they are getting trickier to track down each passing year. And while nothing’s stopping you from using a modern LCD for retro gaming, you may want to track down a square-shaped LCD (mostly 4:3 aspect ratio) so your classic content seems a bit more “at home” — avoiding those black bars.
So whether you’re looking for a cheap 4:3 LCD to use with your MiSTER FPGA setup, have a classic personal computer, or just want something for watching “full screen” video content or a emulation box to run on, I’m hoping this guide is helpful in your shopping.
Granted LCDs, especially older models, aren’t ideal for retro gaming compared to CRTs. LCDs often down’t have as deep of black colors and there is input lag involved among some other issues.
However, LCDs are easier to move around and store and use less electricity. And even though there are many die-hard CRT fans out there, there are also many long-time retro fans that have been using the recommended monitors below for a while and been happy with their performance. I’ve even quoted and handful of enthusiasts to give you a good perspective on these recommendations. And don’t forget, eventually LCDs might be much easier to find and purchase remotely then the CRTs counterparts.
Early LCD monitors may show a lack of technical maturity, however, near some of the later ones that we are focusing on have some decent IPS technology with reasonable color and response times.
In the end, I thought this would be a fun, lighthearted look at some options for those that are interested. If you have any commentary on the matter, please share your thoughts and suggestions in the comments section below. Just be respectful — not looking for CRT vs LCD wars